Dr. Jones Surprises Bethany

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Are you looking for a podcast where you can hear from real people regarding their real dental drama? If so, then

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you've come to the right place. Join hosts Bethany Penny and Dr. Reena Kuba

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as we dive into the solutions we've created and the mistakes we've made while managing dental drama.

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Let's get started. All right, Dad. We survived Thanksgiving. We did. And we're still here.

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Any heavier? How does that work out? Oh, it'll be there. It'll be there.

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Oh my goodness. So, I'm putting you on the spot today because I Dr. Kuba and I

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have both done a top 10 tip list, which is so much harder than it seems to

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put together a top 10 list. And so, I was thinking about what I wanted to record with you today, and I'm going to

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put you on the spot for your top 10. And Deb Beth, you mentioned this to me

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yesterday. So I thought about it and thought about it and and I thought about all the things that we have talked

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about. Yeah. And is there anything new?

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So when I was growing up when TV was black and white and there

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were only three channels and it went off at midnight with like the American flag,

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you actually had to go to sleep at night. There was a program that we used to watch called um this is your life. So

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there would be a person would come on and they didn't realize that

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this is going to be their life and then people from their life would come up and

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anyway it was it was a great thing. So I could not come up with top 10. So

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Bethany Jones this is your life and we're going to talk about your life. Oh lord.

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I know it cuz I think I think people really need to know who you are.

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Oh my gosh. And from a dad's p perspective in a brand new year, I thought I just want to talk about

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Bethany. Oh man, I'm extra uncomfortable now. Yeah. Yeah. We're in our little game

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room and it was 62 degrees when we got in here, but it feels warmer now. It feels great. It feels extra extra

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hot. So, in the beginning, uh, Bethy's mother and I met at Waw

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Baptist University. Yes. We were both music majors. She was a voice major. I was a trumpet major

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because we both know I can't sing. So, I saw Bethy's mother in band and she

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was not there first semester. She was there second semester and I thought, where did this woman come?

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Where was I first? So, she had hadn't been there for a semester and so beautiful, so cute. It took me a few

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weeks to muster up enough courage to ask her to go to the local Sonic and get a

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drink. So, we got a drink. And then that weekend, we had a date.

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Two weeks later, we were so madly in love, I asked her to marry me. Could not understand why my parents were

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like not on board with this. They're what are you talking about? And then

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four months from when I asked her to marry me, we were married in Green Bay, Wisconsin, her her hometown. Yeah.

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It was um it was fast and furious. Fast and furious. And you know, as a

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parent now, I could understand like what are they thinking?

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And and plus young cuz how old? I was 19. Yeah. Oh, I was it was terrible. It was just

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but 54 years later thankfully we have made it you know I don't know if we'll finish but we're so so far so so good.

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So anyway so uh it was a fun time. She was a vocalist. I was a trumpet player.

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We were going to go into music and this is a small town in Arkansas. So

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lots of small churches around. Yeah. So we would play, we would provide the music for revival. Yeah.

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And revival is where it's an intense time of, you know, trying to get back to God. And

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um she would sing and I would play the trumpet and we and she was cute as a button. And so we were a big deal in

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these small churches. They love to see us come. Wow, the circus has come to

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town. So anyway, um, so the so we got married

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and and then for your listeners, my second year of marriage, I think I

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was just miserable in music because I realized I'm really not very talented. You know, I can sing loud but really not

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very good. I was really a good trumpet player. Um, so I had two appointments with a a

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dentist that was in my hometown dentist office for a year waiting to get in oral

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surgery school. I had two appointments with him and I think I've told your listeners that I was so impressed with

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this guy. Yeah. I want to be like this guy. So it doesn't take a long a lot to of time

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and I don't know we didn't say a lot to each other. I'm there for a dental appointment. But he was so I was so

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impressed. So, you never know who you're impressing and who's looking. And it doesn't take a

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lot to have a big impact on, you know, here I am 48 years later still practicing

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dentistry because of that guy. Yeah. That that one guy.

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So, anyway, so we're in we're working our oldest son Brandon was born our

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first year in dental school. I wouldn't recommend that. We got we got into dental school and

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then found out we were pregnant. So that's a tough first year. Oh my gosh. Then our second son, Brent, your older

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brother, was born our first year in middle practice, which is also a stressful time with my uncle.

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Then you're number three and you were born our first year in solo practice.

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Oh my gosh, I didn't realize that. Yeah. So we had three children and the

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worst times. And then your daughter Britney was born under nor normal circumstances. Life was normal.

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So as a family, if you remember, we sang in church. We're very because we had started out of music. We sang in church.

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And so I want your listeners to go. You know, you have a very good voice.

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She can sing. If you ever want her to sing for you, I won't do it. But so then as a child, I remember that you

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were always organized. Mhm. Even as a child, you were organized

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and um unlike most children, if you had a project due at school,

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Yeah. we were not doing it the night before. You already had it done. You already had it planned out.

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And I can remember one project that you had that you were, I

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think, a reporter or something. I remember that project. And it was a futuristic like we were

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like you were a computer talking to me. the big old if y'all remember the big uh VCRs that you had to like put on your

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shoulder to record. Yeah. Yeah. With the big mic on the end. Yes. It was really fun. So um

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so when I'm thinking back to you, I think that Bethany never procrastinated.

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She was always prepared and always well done. It was done well. And so that

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carries over today in in your business. Those characteristics, I just see them all the time. But even as a child, I

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remember that you love to communicate and talk. You love giving presentations.

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So again, that carries over to today, who you are today.

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So it's neat to look back and see the little glimpses of who who you would become. Yeah. as an adult,

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as I think back in high school, you're always a connector, connected people. If if you guys

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remember being in high school or you have children in high school, there are always clicks or groups.

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Yeah. That there's some Anyway, I guess that's how you survive high school. But you

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were never really involved in any of the But you were able to connect with all of those groups.

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Yeah. Yeah. I I talk about that a lot with our oldest cosette now cuz she has

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a similar uh disposition in her she's like I she's

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got close friends that are closer but they're all from very different quote unquote groups

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and she's like yeah I don't really have a group and I always tell her I'm like I was the same way and it was I loved it

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because it taught me to connect you mentioned the word connect in with different people in different way I

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feel like that's where I learned learned like, oh, I can still be the same person who I am, but I can just pivot slightly

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towards this person's interest. Yeah. And build a connection with that person and then this person who's completely

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different over here, I can connect with them differently. So, it was I'm so glad I didn't settle into like a group.

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Yeah. Because you limit your exposure and those people that you got to know

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because you didn't prejudge them. Yeah. You just love them like Yeah. You are.

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Yeah. But groups you have to fit into. So sometimes you have to change to fit in

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into that group. Yeah. So as far as workers related then I I

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think you still have that ability to go into an office and see okay how can I

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connect these this is a disconnected office. How can I connect these people? Yeah.

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So, you have the ability to see past I put in my notes. You're You have the ability to see past the exterior.

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Yeah. And you can see who the person is inside. On the inside. Yeah.

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And you have that same ability to see a situation and you can look beyond.

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I think this is the obvious problem, but you look beneath that and and see, no,

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that's not. It looked like that's the problem on the outside, but here are here are the problems.

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Yeah. And so you had that even as a child. Yeah.

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So it's kind of neat to see how that has come into play into who you who

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you are. Yeah. I think that's a good point. And and I think that that moment of pause

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where we go it may not be the most evident thing, right? like let's really kind of observe and think about this on

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a deeper level. And that's where you get to the real solutions. A lot of times we do surface level

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solutions. I just patch this, patch this, it'll be fine. The problem is still there. Yeah. And it's going to surface surface again.

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Uh somewhere when I was thinking about you, and I often say this, it's that your

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world is black and white. Yeah, there's no gray area in there,

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which does, and I've thought about this. It doesn't mean you can't see the gray

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area in the perspective in there. But when it comes to a solution

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Yeah. to what's happening in this gray area, it's easy to see. It's either black or white.

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Yeah. So true. You know, Yeah. Here's this here's the solution. Yeah. Let's do it.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, for most of us, we get lost in the gray. Yeah. either because uh on either side

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of the gray it might be offensive or it might be hard to make a decision outside this gray area. So we stay in this gray

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area if it's a problem at work or relationship at work. We muddle around in this gray area

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rather than having the strength and the courage to say it's black and white. Yeah. Well, it's risky, right? It's a

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risk. You're like, "What if I'm wrong?" Yeah. What if it's not what if that is not the solution? or what if what if I make this

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decision and it was wrong? And so it's sometimes safer to to muddle in the gray

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because there's a there's less risk. Of course, all of this and as I thought

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about this and thought about surprising you with this is

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all of this your life makes you perfect for what you're doing today.

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Yeah. And because of your life,

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you can do things for a practice that they can't do for themselves. First of all, because you're outside the

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practice, but then secondly, just because of who you are. Yeah. And just like in the gray area, you're

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in the midst of the gray area. You can't see your way out. You think it's this problem when it's really not that

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problem. you can come in and because of your ability to see beneath the surface

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and because you're third party outside, you can say, "No, that's not really the issue." Right?

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And and then you can help them either design a program to get out of the gray

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area or give them the courage or basically you're saying, "I'll take the

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risk." Yeah. Follow me. Yeah. I'll take the risk. Yeah. If we're successful,

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you guys made it successful. If it's not, I'll take the hit. Right. Right.

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You know, and and it's surprising cuz, you know, when you say it like that, I'm I'm

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constantly reminded of how much weight is on my shoulders when I'm pulled into

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a practice. Oh, yeah. I I tell uh my kids all the time, you know, we I try to preach like

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habits to our kids. And my habit when I'm driving, because I do a lot of

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driving, when I'm driving to an office, I'm just reeling over their office, replaying scenarios, replaying people,

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think, think, think, you know, just trying to build a plan. But I get into that office and honestly that parking

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lot, I pray every time. Yeah. because I'm like I don't have what it takes, you know? I don't I need

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wisdom to see what I need to see. So just that 2 or 3 minutes to just like

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okay because when you explain it like that it's 100% risk and I know I'm

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taking that risk when I walk into that practice. So when I suggest something like it it's

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not an easy like ah yeah just do this it'll all be better. It's like I really want to make sure that's the right

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decision because they are muddy muddling in the gray. Yeah. And I'm coming in saying do this

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and that's well and you care about the people and you care about the outcome. So it's not

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just a job for you. You actually want the best for these people and for the practice. And

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so anyway, I'm just tickled. Yeah. So, you go to you graduate from high school and because you were such a good

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connector in high school. Yeah. Most most of the time at homecoming,

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the homecoming court came from the the popular group. The popular groups. Yeah.

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Which you were not a part of. Yeah. You You're very sweet person, very connected. But because

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everyone Yeah. liked you. Yeah. You were on the homecoming court.

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Yeah. That totally did not. No, that did not never happen. No.

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So again, that to me that says being a good person pays off. Yes. Exactly.

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It just pays off. But you didn't expect it. You weren't Oh gosh. A great I was almost like, can you unselect me?

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Yeah. I'd feel better if I wasn't a substitute. Can I send my sister in? She

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She'd be thrilled to walk on that court. So then you go to where your mother and

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I met. Yes. Yeah. And your game plan was to was it from the start to become a professor and

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teach? Wanted to teach at that goal. That was the game. That was the game

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plan. And while Bethany was at work our practice because it's in in the same

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town. Yep. So she was working full-time. Yeah. Pretty much full time. Pretty much full time. anytime I wasn't

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in class, taking 15 to 16 hours in class and then worked the newspaper, too. That

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was and then worked at the newspaper. So, yeah, she can multitask, you guys. If you if

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you're worried about her, she can multitask and do well at all of them. And one of the things I think about

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again going about going back to your desire and what's it's just part of you

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to communicate. Yeah. And to speak. There was a program at Washaw on Thursday nights led by the

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college kids. What was it called? Refuge. Refuge which was a large attended by hundreds

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of kids from school. There was a worship period which means it's music and and singing and then

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there was a teaching period afterwards and historically Yeah. since its inception.

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Yeah. All male all male teachers. These are student teachers. Not student. Yeah. These are college

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students. studentled you were the first woman to be invited

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on that teaching rotation y that's I still can't believe yeah it was that

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was such an honor and I was so excited cuz I loved speaking and I remember the ministry leader the

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college ministry leader his name is Kevin fantastic guy and I remember him toiling over this decision because he

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selects based on recommendations and my name had kept coming up. Of

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course, he and I knew each other really well and just such a cool guy. Uh, and

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he I remember being in his office when he was officially inviting me to be

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a part of the speaking team and um I had done some speaking at smaller little

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there was like a noon time. It was called noon day and I had spoken several times there which is how the suggestion

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came up and I remember Kevin saying I have been battling over this decision cuz he knew the decision he was about to

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make was potentially unprecedented.

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Yeah. And potentially he was going to get grief for it because it had been Southern Baptist.

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Yeah. And a woman in a speaking role. Yeah. And so I remember him saying, "I

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just really prayed and realized, I'm sitting here deciding whether somebody can speak over their gender."

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He's like, "That just makes no sense." And so he's like, it was then that, you know, I said, "Okay, she she needs to be

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in the rotation." So it was a huge risk for him to take Yeah. to make that decision. And um but man, I

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I felt honored and that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. That was really, really, really neat. So also during this time

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you're very busy in school but you're working you know just trying to

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keep our practice going and developing all of your skills that Yeah. So your knowledge and your ability to go

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into a practice is not just based on theory books that you've read. Yeah.

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You've been in the transit. You you've done it. Mhm. All of it. Yeah. Yeah. from the even you know prior co

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college college I feel like is when I really was able to work in your practice but even thinking back I tell people all

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the time I remember in that Bryant practice me and my friend Tyler

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were the cleaners on the weekends and I would remember we we knew we had it on a quarterly

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rotation where we'd go and strip those laminate floors in the operatories I was like no we've we've

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I've been on the floors I remember filing charts hurts. I mean, start from the ground up.

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Yeah. Now, so you're just intimately involved uh intimately

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you you have intimate knowledge of the dental field. Yeah, for sure. It's just not theory. It's practice.

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So anyway, so you're um doing that, then you move off to Dallas. You and Manny, her husband, they get married while

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you're at move to Dallas so you can go to Dallas Theological Seminary. Yep. get your masters on your road to

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getting a PhD so you can come back to and teach. Yeah. While you're at Dallas Theological,

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which is a 4-year M's program, which is unheard of, 96 hours for a mast's, which

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is crazy. Insane. Yeah. Because most masters are 36 hours, almost three times as long.

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But you were working full-time, too. Yeah. Going to school and working.

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So again, that ability to multitask and then you graduate from Dallas

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Theological. You have some babies by now. No, no, no babies yet. No babies yet. But uh in the midst of my

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Dallas Theological, you came back. I came back to Arkansas for Yeah. In my notes, I couldn't

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remember. Was it for a month, a semester, a year? It was for two years. Two years. I was back in Archadadelphia

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at your practice and um still able to remotely finish out my Dallas

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theological career. So they had some online classes at that point

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and then I would go in the summer for like a oneweek course and get got all my credits done and uh so yeah during that

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time I was still Dallas Theological working full-time at the office and then

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teaching at Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can't remember at the time what the

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this was your first not your first but when you were really able to start

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managing dental drama in our office. What was the drama at that time that brought you back? So the mom had I had had a call with mom

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and she was telling me that the practice is not doing well at all. our, you know,

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our accountant is saying, you know, it's not paying the bills because remember this was right after you had lost the

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lease space. Okay. Yeah. You had done the ground, you know, 180 days ground buildup. So, in dead up to

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your eyeballs in a small town, new pra I mean, the practice was still new, right?

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When you built the building, the the big building. Yeah. And so, I'd been on the phone with mom. She's

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telling me, "I I just don't know. This may not make it." And so Manny and I practice.

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Maybe she meant both. So Manny and I packed up and moved home. I said, "Well, we're I'm not going to

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let that happen." So yeah. Yeah. Bethany would do things and I think

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we've mentioned this before. She would actually go to a patient's house to collect.

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Yes. I know. My dad. Yeah. Well, and mom told me because at

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the time I did I mean I had worked the practice but I was I'm like this

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practice is in trouble. I got to it's my family's practice, you know. And so I was absorbing all this consulting

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knowledge and just research research research. And the little that I knew without before the research was

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a business runs off of you got to have enough money to pay the bills. So,

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either you lower the bills Mhm. or you raise the money or you do both.

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And so, my strategy was from the get-go, we're going to lower the bills and we're going to raise the money.

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And uh so mom tell me at that time, she said, "Yeah, our CPA is like, "What are

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you doing? You're this is the lowest bills I've ever seen." Mom's like, "It's the worst time ever.

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We couldn't buy anything. Couldn't spend money on anything." My daughter's like the day.

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So you out there listening, if you're, you know, thinking about getting a bad

24:26

thing in the future and you're like embarrassed by your situation, you don't have to be. Couldn't be any worse than

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her dad's situation. Oh man. So anyway, again, so you save

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the day. I think it was during that time that we had a third party company that was

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paying us and they went belly up. they went 50,000 grand which y you know at the time was like oh my gosh

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when you're already struggling you're like that was what critical but anyway you turn the practice around

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and here it is today and that's you know we easily could have gone belly

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somebody come and take this building it it was close it was really really close it was too close for comfort so then you moved back to Dallas

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yeah because I loved the I I realized in that moment moment of helping your

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practice, it it checked all the boxes for me because it was really such a

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perfect opportunity because I was able to teach um at simultaneously. So, I'm

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trying to help your practice and in a leadership role, right? And I was also teaching at the same

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time. Yeah. And so I was able to live in two worlds at the same time. And I loved teaching.

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It was it so fun. I've always said if I end up retiring from consulting one day,

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I think I'll go back and teach because I've been able to teach not only at Washaw but at Colin College and I really

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do love teaching. But there was just something really fulfilling about the

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dental practice and just it it involves so much strategy. There was so I loved

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the communication, learning how to communicate with patients, learning how to lead the team there. It was like so

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deep. Mhm. And I realized I was able to just think about it long term and I'm like I think

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teaching would get old at some point and I think there's always a problem to be solved, you know, in the

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dental office. I'm like I I don't know what I want to do, but I think I want to pursue another

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master's degree rather than going the PhD route, right? Um, I think I may want to pursue another

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master's in communication, specifically in health communication.

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And then I'm like, at least then I can decide. I'll have my master's in, you know, theology, biblical studies, adult

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education is really what that ended up becoming. And then I'll have my masters in communication. And then if I want to

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go on to pursue a PhD path in either, I've got I got a choice.

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So yeah, it was serendipitous. Yeah. So two masters. Mhm.

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Highly educated, smart, smart woman there. And then we start having children.

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Yep. Yeah. So I guess I followed your pattern in a way because the year

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is that right? Yeah. It's got to be.

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I can't. No. I think Cozette was born either the first year of my business or

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potentially the second year because I remember, you know, when you're growing a business, it's just

27:38

slow. A consulting business, it's slow. You're you're building a reputation and everything. And I remember being when I found out I

27:46

was pregnant, I thought, "Oh no, that what am I going to do with my client? Like, I don't have anybody to help me

27:52

with like a maternity leave or anything like that. Like, it's just me. These people pay me monthly. like I can't just

27:58

disappear for a month. And so I remember being in labor emailing people

28:05

backing back and then the second she was born I remember picking my phone like back then it was a Blackberry picking my

28:11

Blackberry back up and after she was born like I've missed some emails I've missed some text

28:16

messages cuz I was like I can't be gone. So she's committed to you guys right there

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and don't worry no more children. No more done. And I was there for that delivery. It

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was horrible. It was horrendous. It was a horrible delivery. As a dad, you're like, just do a seat because you

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were in labor for uh almost 30 30 hours. Yeah. Yeah. And she was so I can remember

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there was a nurse. Charge nurse. Charge nurse that said you'll never be

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able to do this. Yeah. Wrong thing to say to Bethany. It was the right thing to say

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cuz you were then one push later she was out. I'll show you. You can't tell me

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why. You You stare at that head coming out and watch me push it out.

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So anyway, so now you have five kids. Mhm. Um

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13 to six. Yep. All the way down to six. Yeah. So Bethany and her husband Manny still

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teaches in high school. And

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let me see what I have here. So I I was

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talked here about, you know, you weren't dismayed. You started another program even though you

29:31

Yeah. changed it. Yeah. Um that you're always working when you were getting those. And so my thoughts

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there again going back to a child is that you're organized, disciplined,

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focused, able to multitask, and those those attributes showed up even as a child.

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was kind of neat to see to look back and see that. Yeah. To see that they because I think

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people have natural talents and natural gifts, but it doesn't necessarily mean they capitalize on them or grow them.

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The seed is there, right? But you have to develop that that seed. It's I think it's just neat as your dad

30:14

to see your life how that has those skill sets now allow you to have

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your own business and help other people. Yeah. In the gray area. Yeah. And that Yeah. And that's so cool.

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And I think when you can really think about your so again I think that period

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of time where I was able to work at your practice and also teach such a gift for me because

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it allowed me to see what was really enjoyable. I enjoyed both, but there's something like almost uh

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addictive about there's always a problem to solve in a dental office. And I

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realized I'm really attracted to that. And I think when people can really play

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to their their strengths that then you can have very fulfilling I mean I tell

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people all the time like I I love my job like it is so satisfying and fulfilling

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and um and I know you feel the same way about dentistry. So it's like when you can really capitalize on your natural

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strengths it's a it's not work. It's not. You know that's what I tell people. I said it's not like I come to work every

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day. Yeah, it's just fun. Are there are there and you know this are there stresses and you

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know some people some patients are just crazy. Yeah. Oh my god.

31:35

There's plenty of them. Just crazy. And you know and some days your staff will irritate you. You know.

31:41

Yeah. I know I've made it seem like ours is perfect. It's it's not there. Sundays are I'm like I've just learned to in our

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practice not react so quickly. Yeah.

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Because I' I've found that I can overreact like my dad

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Mhm. overreact then I can get over it real quickly. But those that I offended

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Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they ever get over it. They don't move on so quickly beneath the surface. just so anyway. So,

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uh, so yeah, we have frustrations with staff and

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but and and again, I've said this, maybe I'm just so old, I'm too tired to fighting now, or I realize some of those

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battles just aren't worth worth it. You know, like sometimes like last week,

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we weren't one day not extremely busy and everywhere I turned around, they're

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on their phones, you know, to be and back in the old days. Yeah. That would not have happened.

32:43

You're going to find something to do it. You're going to strip that lenolium like Bethany did. Get on your hands and

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knees and strip that lenolium. What are you doing? Uh but just last week I thought we're

32:58

productive. Yeah, we're a happy team. Shut up from time to time. Leave it alone. Leave it. you know, you

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know, some don't have to be, but but there's sometimes we do have to because

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I'm a great person. Yes. Rather than approach them and say, "What

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the heck are you doing on your phone? I'll move back to my little grave." They say, "It'll be okay. It'll be fine. Live in the great.

33:24

It's fine. I'll live in the great." Bethany would not let this happen.

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Put your phone in your car. In fact, leave it at home. Yeah. Don't Don't even bring it.

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Another princess. I'm like, "Oh, yeah, sure. Come on.

33:40

Family. You have babies. Bring them all. Bring Let the kids hang out. They'll be fine.

33:46

Run up and down the hall." It's so true. It It just Yeah. Good days

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and bad days. But So now, um, you're helping practices.

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Not only do you you say your dad's, but you're helping practices all over the United States. Yeah.

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Using that skill set that uh God gave you. Yeah. But you developed. Yeah.

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You perfect perfected it. And just making an impact on their lives

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like you did on ours. And there may be some practices that in

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your lifetime you've already saved or that you will save. And you know 50 years from now or 25 years

34:27

from now one of your pal consultants can say you know Bethany. Yeah.

34:33

Changed my life. Yeah. So, um, as your dad, how would I sum up my

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daughter Bethany? Simply amazing. I love it. Amazing. So, I love you and I'm proud of

34:45

you. Oh, thanks, man. That was a turn I was not expecting, but it's fun to go back and

34:50

and those are just highlights skips. You know, there's so many things we could have talked about, but but I would say probably any of my

34:57

clients listening don't know probably 80% of that. So yeah, good to know who

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you are. Yep. It's a good It's been good. It's been a good career path and a lot of fun for sure. So,

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and I was also going to say, so now you help all these practices.

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Yeah. You have five children. Yeah. Eight goats. 10 goats with the bugs. The stupid bugs.

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Yeah. 20 chickens. Yes. Or did you lose one? Well, we had 21. So now we have an even

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20 now. Yeah. Even 20. So, still busy, still multitasking.

35:32

Still fun though. Keeps you young, keeps you keeps you active for sure. So, well, thank you for

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trip back to Dallas. Yeah. Thanks for coming. We'll see you next weekend though. I was about to say, oh, I cannot wait.

35:43

If this is a tip for anybody in Dallas, right, they got to go

35:48

to the Prestonwood Christmas play. It's incredible. It's our annual tradition. We do it

35:54

every year. where we get on, buy tickets early and it is just,

35:59

you know, there are like a thousand people involved in it. It is incredible. Unbelievable. It's the best kept secret

36:05

I feel like in Dallas. I've told so many of my clients about it cuz even if you're not Christian, you know, to go.

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It's very entertaining. Secular and biblical part. Yeah. Starts with the secular stuff,

36:18

ends with the nativity and all that. It's it's remarkable. So yeah, that'll be if you're in the Dallas area, take your

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take your office. Oh yes, that'd be a great office. That would be a great team. Probably not this year. You'll probably

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about to say at this point you're not getting in. I don't think you might find one seat. It's get in get

36:36

in early. Look it up for next year. So all right. Well, thanks Dad. Thanks for bragging on me. You're welcome. Love you.

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